Forgiveness Is a Skill. These Are the Trainers.

This final episode of season 1 features three guests from Forgiveness International, a nonprofit organization whose purpose is to promote interpersonal forgiveness through ESPERE, the schools of Forgiveness and Reconciliation. This conversation with Leocadia Montero-Hainley, Rodney Peterson, and Daniel Carman brought me back to the heart of why I do this work.

These three shared stories of gang interventions, restorative circles, and interfaith reconciliation that reveal how deeply harm shapes us — and how powerful it is when people choose to reach out in forgiveness. From a mother who forgave the man who paralyzed her daughter to children learning that forgiveness can become a new default, these guests remind us that healing truly begins with the individual. We can all learn this skill. And when we do, it reshapes our families, communities, and society.

Season two of “Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace” begins spring of 2026 focusing on individual forgiveness. I’ll be joined by co-host Dr. Fred Luskin of the Stanford University Forgiveness Projects and author of the bestselling books, “Forgive for Good” and “Forgive for Love.”

Leocadia Montero-Hainley

Leocadia Montero-Hainley is a psychotherapist and principal of Leocadia Consulting specializing in conflict resolution, trauma processing, and restorative justice. She leads restorative circles and offers workshops that help communities rebuild trust, heal harm, and strengthen relationships.

Rodney Peterson

Rodney Peterson served as executive director of the Boston Theological Institute and the Consortium of Theological Schools in the greater Boston area. He currently leads workshops on forgiveness and reconciliation with Boston’s Cooperative Metropolitan Ministries and is a visiting scholar at Duke Divinity School.

Dan Carman

Dan Carman is the director of Cooperative Metropolitan Ministries, Boston’s oldest interfaith social-action network, and serves as vice chair of Forgiveness International. His work centers on community healing, interfaith collaboration, and developing practical pathways toward reconciliation.

Mentioned in the Episode

Dignity: Its Essential Role in Resolving Conflict by Donna Hicks

Dr. Eileen Borris

Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change.

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Timecodes

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:18 Introducing the Guests

03:21 Leo’s Journey from Law to Psychotherapy

07:54 Dan’s Story: From Bullying to Mediation

13:04 Rodney’s Work in Forgiveness and Reconciliation

18:36 Transformations Through Forgiveness

26:57 Personal Impact of Forgiveness Work

30:10 Final Thoughts and Messages

33:17 Conclusion and Season Wrap-Up

Forgiveness and the Meaning of Christmas

The Christmas season is upon us, bringing with it themes of hope, love, and joy. Traditionally, it is the time of gift-giving, generosity, and goodwill. In the Jewish tradition, Hanukkah symbolizes the theme of light overcoming darkness. Kwanzaa is about building relationships with a call for unity and forgiveness to help the community prosper. The core belief in the Christian tradition is that the birth of Jesus would lead to his sacrifice, atoning for human sin. This divine act of grace and mercy is considered the greatest gift ever given, and because of the gift of forgiveness, Christians are taught to extend the same grace and compassion to others. The Christmas season reflects a time to release grudges, heal old wounds, and forgive — especially family members, friends, and neighbors. This is mirrored in the proclamation of “peace on earth, goodwill towards men,” which we often hear during this time and is tied to the idea of mending broken relationships and fostering goodwill, made possible through the power of forgiveness.

Unconditional Love and Goodwill

For many, Christmas is the celebration of the birth of an incredible being who embodies the energy of unconditional love, goodwill toward others, and caring for those who are less fortunate. It brings in a higher state of consciousness. This spiritual concept refers to a state of divine awareness attainable by anyone. It is the realization of one’s divine nature, leading to the outward demonstration of qualities such as love, joy, and compassion. It is an awareness that moves beyond ego and reactivity, often achieved through spiritual practice and spiritual and emotional maturity. The key element is understanding the limits of the ego and transcending it, which opens the door to a more peaceful and loving state of being.

Forgiveness is at the heart of the Christmas season, and there are people doing the work of forgiveness with underserved or overlooked populations. We have met some of these people during season 1 of our podcast. Our season finale features three people doing incredible work, giving workshops to people experiencing domestic violence, living in prisons, or dealing with the aftermath of war. Forgiveness begins with the individual, which means all of us can contribute to healing our society and lay the foundation for a culture of forgiveness that leads to societal change.

Practicing Forgiveness

All of us can practice forgiveness this holiday season by mending broken relationships and letting go of grudges. In forgiving others, recognize that people who hurt others may have been hurt themselves, making it easier to extend compassion and see them in a more forgiving light. And don’t forget to seek forgiveness for yourself. This is the time for self-reflection — to acknowledge actions you may regret and the harm it may have caused others. Have the courage to apologize to others if need be; it will help you feel better. Self-forgiveness also means having compassion for yourself. Being human means being imperfect, making mistakes, and accepting our vulnerabilities. It happens to all of us. We can’t change the past, but we can create a different future. And don’t forget, during these hectic and stressful times, thoughtful acts of kindness can go a long way.

Stories From Forgiveness Trainers

In this month’s episode of Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace you’ll hear stories from Leocadia Montero-Hainley, a psychotherapist and consultant specializing in conflict resolution and trauma processing; Rodney Peterson, executive director of the Boston Theological Schools in the Greater Boston area; and Dan Carmen, director of Cooperative Metropolitan Ministries, which is Boston’s oldest interfaith social action network. All three have given training programs in forgiveness.

Leocadia began her career as a prosecutor, hoping her work would change people’s lives. She didn’t see much behavioral change, so she left that field to study human behavior. As part of her internship program at Adelante Mujeres, a nonprofit organization that focuses on the needs of marginalized immigrant Latina women, Leocadia became involved with the ESPERE (Schools of Forgiveness) forgiveness training program, where she began working with survivors of domestic violence. It was here that she experienced the transformative power of forgiveness.

Rodney’s interest in forgiveness began when he attended the Harvard Conference on Forgiveness and Reconciliation, which featured Desmond Tutu and his reflections on apartheid. That gave Rodney courage to teach forgiveness and reconciliation in his classes at the Boston University School of Theology. He began giving workshops around the world, looking at conflict and religion. When Rodney made it to Bosnia, he met with religious clerics and tried to have a conversation about the war when one of the clerics turned to Rodney and said, “All that we are really interested in is for someone to say, ‘I’m sorry.’ ” That was a striking moment Rodney will never forget, which spoke to the importance of forgiveness.

Dan grew up in the Washington, DC area and was schooled in Fairfax County, where the population was very diverse. There was gang violence in his school. It was a hard place to navigate, especially at a young age. Dan learned how to fight in his own defense, getting his basic training from M13. He was trusted by this gang and learned how to mediate between them and other gangs. As Dan’s interest in mediation grew, he began to study different forms of conflict resolution, which ultimately led him to study forgiveness and reconciliation and to the ESPERE program.

Season 2: Seeking Podcast Guests With Forgiveness Stories or Coaching Potential

This is the end of season 1 of Political Forgiveness: Voices of Peace. I want to thank all of my wonderful guests who made this season possible. There is a lot to learn from all of them, and I am so grateful. Season 2 will begin in the spring of 2026, and I have a fabulous co-host joining me: Dr. Frederic Luskin, who was my first guest this season. Season 1 covered the broad picture of political forgiveness. Season 2 will focus on how we build the foundation of political forgiveness, which begins with the individual, and will focus on individual forgiveness.

If you know of anyone with a forgiveness story, or you yourself have personally been able to forgive, or have struggled with any aspect of forgiveness, and are interested in possibly being coached on the podcast, please get in touch with me. Fred and I are looking for anyone who struggles to forgive their exes, spouses, adult children, parents, family members, friends, bosses, etc. I can be reached at erborris@gmail.com. Looking forward to hearing from you. Happy holidays!

Secrets of Peace Negotiator Antti Pentikäinen

What can a former terrorist negotiator teach us about healing our families and ourselves? In this moving conversation, Antti Pentikäinen shares what he’s learned from conflict zones to parenting teens: Transformation begins with how we see one another. The energy we bring into a room—whether love or judgment—shapes every outcome. Antti invites us to become “insider reconcilers” in our own lives, healing divisions through presence, compassion, and belief in the dignity of others. You are the healer your family and community need.

Antti Pentikäinen

Finnish Peace Prize winner Antti Pentikäinen is currently professor of practice at the Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter School for Peace and Conflict Resolution at George Mason University, executive director of the Mary Hoch Center for Reconciliation and the Think Peace Learning and Support Hub, where he leads research on how communities and nations heal after violence. He has a lifelong dedication to peacebuilding, reconciliation, and truth-seeking processes that have left a profound impact on communities worldwide.

He also works with indigenous communities on decolonizing mental health and finding ways to connect their cultural practices to existing mental health modalities. Previously, Antti served as Finland’s Special Envoy on the refugee crisis, advised the U.N. on genocide prevention, and worked in the U.S. Institute of Peace and served as Secretary for the U.S. TRHT Leadership Group.

Antti has written a book called How Nations Heal. If anyone knows of an agent or publisher who might be interested, please contact Antti Pentikainen at apentika@gmu.edu.

Contact Antti

Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter School for Peace and Conflict Resolution at George Mason University

Mary Hoch Center for Reconciliation

Think Peace Learning and Support Hub

LinkedIn: @Antti Pentikäinen

Dr. Eileen Borris

Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change.

Be Part of Eileen’s Community

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Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness

Timecodes

00:00 Introduction to Political Forgiveness

00:33 Introducing Antti Pentikainen

00:45 Life in War Zones

02:33 Transition to Academia and US Advisory Role

03:55 The Concept of Sacrifice

08:56 Spiritual Injury and Healing

15:14 Truth, Racial Healing, and Transformation

24:35 The Role of Art and Community in Healing

28:06 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

A Day in the Life of Peacebuilder Antti Pentikäinen

It’s not every day we talk to people who can share what life is like on the ground in a war zone. It takes a particular kind of person to leave the comforts of home and help others living in challenging, sometimes dangerous, situations. I recently interviewed Antti Pentikäinen, who spent 25 years as a peace mediator, and asked him what his life was like working in conflict zones, when conditions were sparse and he was living out of a backpack. How did he keep his sanity living in such difficult situations?

In Antti’s backpack there was a bulletproof vest, which included an additional plate to block larger bullets. The largest spaces had to be reserved for essential security and first aid items, including a pump to clean the water, mosquito net, fire alarm, and solar panels to charge devices such as a satellite phone or GPS locator. Antti made regular use of the combat medic first-aid kit, with tourniquets carried in pockets for quick access. This was Antti’s life as a peace mediator while working in some of the world’s worst conflicts and civil wars for a quarter-century. It is exhausting and challenging work.

All of this left a tiny space for clothing, sanitary items, and other essentials, which, in Antti’s case, included The Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr. This book accompanied him on numerous trips to war zones. Although it took a third of his personal space, the book became essential. In the evenings, after Antti washed and hung his clothes to dry using only a bucket of water so he would have something to wear in the morning, he crawled under the mosquito net, turned on his headlamp, and opened his book.

Healing from Spiritual Injury

Reading Martin Luther King’s autobiography can be inspirational for many people, and what he stands for brings us closer to our own spiritual nature and to the feeling of the interconnectedness of humanity. This led Antti to question the source of healing and the the concept of spiritual injury. When something harms how we see ourselves or how we speak to ourselves, it is a spiritual injury. It is a deep, internal wound caused by an event or a series of events that creates an irreconcilable conflict between a person’s deeply held spiritual beliefs and their lived reality. It is the way we see our place in the world, the way we relate to other people, and the way we relate to the visible and the invisible realms.

In our conversation, Antti shared the insight that, when there is harm, everyone is harmed, and when there is healing, everything starts to heal. Forgiveness plays a vital role in healing a spiritual injury. Forgiveness helps us peel back the layers of the onion to reach the essence of who we truly are—our spiritual essence—and heals the guilt, fear, anger, and grievances that contribute to the violence and harm people experience. Healing from spiritual injury requires patience and a conscious, deliberate effort to process the trauma and rebuild a sense of safety and trust. Recognizing that the hurt is a legitimate trauma is the first step toward recovery. Engaging in a forgiveness process helps heal wounds resulting from spiritual injury and can be a decisive step forward.

Truth and Reconciliation in the United States

The healing of nations is a very fragile process. We can look to truth and reconciliation commissions and the lessons they have taught to support healing in the United States.  There was an effort made by Dr. Gail Christopher, who at the time was vice president of the Kellogg Foundation, where she was the driving force behind the Truth, Racial Healing & Transformation effort, which was an adaptation of the truth and reconciliation model. Truth and reconciliation commissions usually emerged after civil wars ended, and a mechanism was needed to help nations heal. Dr. Christopher shared that, although the situation in the United States is different given our functioning democratic institutions, we, too, need a healing mechanism that addresses the past in a restorative way, enabling social healing. Social healing cannot be enforced. People need to voluntarily unite around a common purpose to help rebuild relationships and, by doing so, address past issues in restorative ways. It is in this choosing that the healing process begins. It is in the reformation of relationships that societies begin to rebuild—and which, hopefully, lead to a new nation.

An important lesson learned from Dr. Christopher’s work is that before a nation can come together—or before there is any form of a truth and reconciliation commission—individuals impacted by painful situations need to heal. This requires a willingness and an investment from people who dare to imagine what it would take to do the hard work and get things going. To do this work, there needs to be a container—a social space, the broader community —to support them. Otherwise, the trauma will continue to be handed down from one generation to the next. This internal healing and working within a safe social space is what forgiveness in a political context looks like. And it’s the beauty of choosing to come together that will be the defining moment in our country.

To learn more about Antti’s work, enjoy the Political Forgiveness episode, “Secrets of Peace Negotiator Antti Pentikäinen” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What Can Leaders and Neuroscience Teach Us?

Many countries around the world are grappling with a violent past. In the peacebuilding world, addressing the past focuses on identifying and resolving the root causes of conflict through constructive engagement with narratives and past experiences of violent conflict. Many leaders are, or have been at the forefront of building the foundations of peace within their societies and nations. Leaders who come to mind are Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., and Mahatma Gandhi. All of these men followed their moral compass, based on principles of inner strength and ethical convictions. Can we develop leaders who possess a mindset of inclusivity and moral fortitude? Is there something we can learn from leaders who have been self-reflective due to their experiences, and as a result, can teach us very valuable lessons? And is there a place for neuroscience to help us gain a deeper understanding of one another?

Tim Phillips, founder and CEO of Beyond Conflict, a nonprofit organization that works with leaders to address conflict and promote social change in the United States and abroad, has shared insights gained from his work with leaders around the world. In my latest podcast, Biology, Brains, and the Business of Forgiveness, I had the honor of discussing with Tim how these insights can inform the work of political forgiveness. He began meeting leaders towards the end of the Cold War, especially those in newly emerging democracies. When speaking to these leaders, various issues started to emerge, — including the legacy of the past. How do individuals, communities, and nations deal with the burden of repression that lasted for generations? How do we trust again?

Acknowledging the Oppressor’s Experience

Tim had the privilege of becoming friends with Roelf Meyer, a South African leader and the chief negotiator for the National Party government, who played an integral role in the negotiations between F.W. de Klerk and Nelson Mandela that led to South Africa’s transition to post-apartheid governance. Meyer was asked if he felt any anxiety or insecurity about the decision he made with de Klerk about the negotiations that ended apartheid, and how he felt afterwards. Meyer did question whether he was doing the right thing for his people and for the nation, understanding that people feared what lay on the other side of change. Yet, the moment the agreement was signed, Meyer felt a sense of liberation. A paradigm shift occurred.

Tim then asked more about Meyer’s community, the Boer or Afrikaner community, which went through a form of ethnic cleansing and genocide by the British in the early 20th century. Twenty thousand men, women, and children were killed. Did Meyer’s community ever confront that? Meyer paused, and as he thought about this more, he said if his community had an internal process of healing and truth-telling, perhaps after the Boer War, they may not have set up apartheid.

As part of the truth-telling and healing process, hearing the stories of the victims gives a voice to the voiceless and creates a historical record of what took place. It sheds light on what has happened. But what about the story of the oppressor — were they once victims, too? What if a truth-telling process included the acknowledgment of the psychological landscape of the oppressor that created the situation of so much suffering in the first place? It’s much more challenging to acknowledge the trauma of individuals who did horrible things to you, and to acknowledge what wounded them. Acknowledgment is a crucial component of the political forgiveness process and is essential to breaking cycles of violence, as reflected in Meyer’s insight, and could have profound implications. And we need a process that invites those who cause harm to engage in a healing process of their own, thereby reclaiming their humanity as well. Political forgiveness provides for that opportunity.

Political Forgiveness Begins at Home

Political forgiveness must begin with the individual, and only then can it radiate out to the community and society at large. Phillips highlighted this when hearing someone ask Desmond Tutu about forgiveness. Tutu admitted how difficult forgiveness can be, sharing that when he was in a fight with his wife, he sometimes struggled to say he was sorry. When we think of political forgiveness, we often consider it in broad, existential terms, particularly when we witness the immense suffering that occurs in the world. But political forgiveness begins with our lived human experiences, within our families, our friends, and in our communities. It is part of being human, and to understand our humanness, Phillips began to look to brain and behavioral science to gain insight into this.

The Neural Signature of Forgiveness

Most people don’t realize that our every thought has a chemical component transmitted via neurotransmitters in our brains. Neuroscientists tell us that thoughts can change our brain chemistry as well as our physiology. Neuroplasticity — our brain’s ability to alter neural connections — allows the brain to compensate for traumatic events by forming new neural connections based on new experiences. This can create a cognitive shift in our thinking, leading to a reappraisal of our emotions.

In 2013, a group of scientists (Ricciardi et al.) studied how our brains heal emotional wounds, and they found that the decision to forgive rewires the brain. Neural pathways associated with anger and resentment are weakened, while new neural pathways related to emotional reappraisal, taking perspective and empathy are created. Those who chose to forgive horrific things have also changed their neural signature, which releases the PTSD patterning through emotional reappraisal, which then reduces post-traumatic stress. The difference is actually visible on an fMRI.

The Neuropsychological Equivalent of Grace

What can we take from this? When we can forgive, we perceive the world with greater clarity and insight. The rewiring of the brain has enabled an emotional reappraisal, increased ability for perspective-taking, enhanced empathy, and the healing of emotional wounds. This helps in viewing the oppressor in a new light and within a broader context, where one’s defenses are lowered, allowing for a deeper understanding of the situation as a whole, because our brains have changed. Perhaps this also gives us a window into spiritual experiences. This window is the gift of forgiveness. Forgiveness changes the neural imprint in our brains where an emotional reappraisal happens. This creates a release, which some experience as liberation, while for others, it feels like a shift in perception that is a miracle. From a neuroscientific perspective, perhaps this is the true meaning of grace.

To learn more about Tim Phillips’ work, enjoy the Political Forgiveness episode, “Biology, Brains, and the Business of Forgiveness” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

 


SOURCE:

Ricciardi et al, How the Brain Heals Emotional Wounds: The Functional Neuroanatomy of Forgiveness, Frontiers in Human Neuroscience, Dec. 9, 2013

Biology, Brains, and the Business of Forgiveness

Tim Phillips has witnessed firsthand how forgiveness reshapes lives—whether in high-stakes negotiations that ended apartheid and sectarian violence, or in the emerging science that shows forgiveness can literally rewire the brain.

As a leader who has supported reconciliation processes from South Africa to Northern Ireland, Tim shares wisdom from figures like Desmond Tutu alongside insights from neuroscience and trauma research. He reminds us that forgiveness is not only a liberating personal choice but also a biological necessity: By understanding ourselves better, we begin to understand others — even our oppressors. Leadership, brain plasticity, and extraordinary stories of reconciliation all come alive in this wide-ranging conversation.

Tim Phillips

Tim Phillips is the founder and CEO of Beyond Conflict, a nonprofit organization that works with leaders to address conflict and promote social change in the United States and abroad. Tim has led efforts to catalyze the peace and reconciliation processes in several nations, including Northern Ireland, El Salvador, and South Africa, and has advised the United Nations, the US Department of State and the Council of Europe. Building on this body of experience, Beyond Conflict has partnered with cognitive and behavioral scientists to generate insights at the intersection of behavioral sciences and real world experience.

Where to Find Tim Phillips

LinkedIn: Timothy Phillips

Website: https://beyondconflictint.org

Dr. Eileen Borris

Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change.

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Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness

Timecodes

00:00  Introduction to Political Forgiveness

00:27  Meet Tim Phillips: Founder of Beyond Conflict

01:11  Exploring Post-Communist Europe

04:07  The Legacy of Apartheid in South Africa

08:36  The Miami Show Band Massacre

14:17  The Neuroscience of Forgiveness

20:58  Political Forgiveness in the Modern World

33:17  Final Thoughts and Reflections

The Priest and the Guerrilla Fighter

Father Leonel Narváez grew up dodging bullets in a Colombian war zone. Later, he befriended the founder of FARC—the same guerrilla group that had brought violence to his doorstep. That experience changed him forever. Now, he teaches nations how to heal through political forgiveness.

“We are asking people to move from being a beast toward being an angel, because both are there in your heart,” he says.

This episode will challenge everything you think you know about justice, mercy, and peace.

#LeonelNarváez #TransitionalJustice #VoicesOfPeace #Forgiveness #PoliticalForgiveness #Peacebuilding

Father Leonel Narváez is a Colombian sociologist, Catholic priest, and founder of the Foundation for Reconciliation in Bogotá. He is the architect of the ESPERE methodology (Escuelas de Perdón y Reconciliación), a training model designed to address the emotional roots of violence, such as resentment and the desire for revenge. His work, informed by experience in peace negotiations across Latin America and Africa, has been implemented in 21 countries and has reached over 2 million participants. Recognized by UNESCO and recipient of Colombia’s Emprender Paz Prize, Father Narváez advances forgiveness with a deep-rooted respect for human dignity.

Where to find Fr. Leonel Narváez

Website: https://www.fundacionparalareconciliacion.org

About Eileen Borris

Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dreileenborris

Eileen’s book: Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness

https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Forgiveness-Seven-Step-Program-Bitterness/dp/0071474692/ref=sr_1_1?

Timestamps

00:34 Meet Father Leonel Narváez

02:07 Leonel’s Early Life and Influences

05:19 Encounter with FARC Leader

10:36 Understanding Political Forgiveness

16:57 The Role of Truth and Reconciliation

24:48 ESPERE Methodology and Its Impact

32:32 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

Healing Memories, Forging Peace

Colombia is a nation on a journey from conflict to peace, a nation attempting to stop the never-ending cycle of violence, which has been a struggle for over 50 years. It is a complex nation and situation, which led to a civil war of over five decades, devastating the civilian population. Efforts to peacefully resolve the conflict have resulted in partial agreements that last only for short periods. Yet, there is one person who understands that, to achieve lasting peace, the country must address the anger and fear fueling the Colombian conflict.

From Fear to Forgiveness

Fr. Leonel Narváez Gómez is someone who has worked tirelessly in Colombia’s peacebuilding efforts. Narváez, a Colombian Catholic priest who participated very closely in the peace negotiations with the leftist guerrillas in Colombia, is deeply committed to the work of forgiveness around the world. He was born in Génova, a village near Medellín, in the same town where the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and its leader were born. Narváez later developed a significant relationship with the FARC leader, Tiro Fijo, in which he was able to rescue dozens of young boys and girls under the age of 18 from the movement.

The area surrounding Medellín was a very violent and dangerous region of the country, and for 12 years Narváez was in danger of being kidnapped. Memories have haunted Narváez. When he was a very young boy, his father’s sugar cane factory was set on fire and destroyed one night by his father’s enemy. What Narváez remembered most was watching the factory burn at 2 a.m. in the morning, fearing that the source of the family’s income would be destroyed. That memory and his anger lingered on for years, and due to this childhood memory, Narváez realized the importance of developing a process for overcoming memory, a process he now teaches others when discussing forgiveness and reconciliation.

The Pull of Powerful Emotions

Narváez’s interest in political forgiveness has a long history. When the 1998 and 2001 negotiations in El Caguán failed, Narváez realized that something was missing. People were negotiating with a lot of anger and hate behind their words, fueling conflict, violence, and the urge for revenge. He understood that, for sustainable peace to be achieved, a solution was needed to address the pull of these powerful emotions. With a background in negotiation, and with the support of experts in various disciplines, including research into forgiveness, Narváez developed a program which was later known as Schools of Forgiveness and Reconciliation (SFR) or Escuelas de Perdon y Reconciliacion (ESPERE), which became the cornerstone of the Fundación Para La Reconciliación or Foundation for Reconciliation, which he founded. ESPERE (es-PEER-ay) was formed to promote forgiveness and reconciliation, and to offer groups of Colombians an opportunity to come together and develop processes that support individuals affected by violence.

What makes the ESPERE program different in terms of an individual forgiveness process is that it links the work of individual forgiveness, an interior process, with a process rooted in the principles of truth, justice, pacts, and memory. The purpose of the initiative was to see how the participants’ emotional development and patterns of social interaction were affected by their experiences. The hope was that when people could share their stories, the narratives could change, and the need for revenge would dissipate, allowing people to move toward reconciliation.

ESPERE Stories

Many forgiveness stories have emerged from the work of ESPERE. Some cases include working with people involved in serious crimes, such as killing a relative, and how they learned to forgive themselves and be forgiven. Another example includes a widow who lost her only son and then adopted the killer of her son. There are other stories, such as an owner of an enterprise who gave employment to his kidnappers—the owner even paid the lawyers not to prosecute them. Yet another story involves an ex-combatant who was attacked during one of the raids and was wounded. His life is now in a wheelchair.

He participated in the Schools of Forgiveness and Reconciliation (SFR) workshop, which taught him how to forgive. Due to his experience in the program, he has now dedicated his life to working with the foundation, and has become a powerful testimony for forgiveness. It is hoped that, in time, Colombia will constitute a national system of reconciliation in which victims of the war, ex-combatants, children and young people in educational establishments, and the population in general will participate in the promotion of cultures of peace, developing agendas for forgiveness.

The ultimate objective of the SFR program is to create communities of peace that heal the wounds of conflict, foster forgiveness and reconciliation, and thereby enable peace to flourish and prevent unrest from happening again. The premise behind the program is that if we do not heal from our psychological wounds, cycles of violence will continue to perpetuate themselves.

The ESPERE program’s methodology has been adopted in numerous countries worldwide. An international network has emerged, sharing experiences, results, and concerns that arise from members’ activities in the field of forgiveness and reconciliation. Members of the network have worked with prison populations, young offenders, victims of political and domestic violence, the reintegration of illegal armed actors, and with young people who suffer abuse in schools. In each of these areas, it has been possible to develop a series of specific methodological designs that, while preserving the general principles of ESPERE, are tailored to the particular circumstances of the target population group.

The Inner Embrace

The concept of forgiveness is about graciousness. It is a gift we give to one another. Forgiveness touches the most existential question of life. What is life for? Life is a gift, and it is also a gift to others. Therefore, forgiveness is not just about forgiving an offense. The real motivation is that by forgiving the offense, you become much more; you become a gift to humanity. That is the most profound meaning of life.

The healing capacity of forgiveness is powerful, and when we allow ourselves to reach its depth we begin to tap into forces that enable us to see the spiritual nature within ourselves and within others. This essence must shine, and it does. It shines within our thoughts, helping us to see the spiritual substance in all of us, in qualities like kindness, generosity, helpfulness, and selfless love. Instead of fearfully looking for signs of trouble, instead of labeling people as victimizers, or victims, or even terrorists, we can humbly see what the light of divine love illuminates. Seeing clearly is only possible as we know the truth of who we are, our spiritual essence. Seeing clearly will enable us to be that light of the world—to shine with the love that illuminates the dark places and wipes out fear, hatred, and misunderstanding. And the same love that lights our way shows us where and how we can best shine the light for others in our communities, because when one person is shining the light, everyone around can see too.

To learn more about ESPERE and the work of Fr. Leonel Narváez, enjoy the Political Forgiveness episode, “The Priest and the Guerrilla Fighter” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Forgiving a War Commander. Forging Community.

What happens when a mass killer asks for forgiveness? In Sierra Leone’s Fambul Tok (Family Talk) former combatants gather with victims around a bonfire to share their truth, seek forgiveness, and restore community. In this interview with Libby Hoffman, we follow the powerful journey of Mohammed Savage and others who went from committing atrocities to becoming advocates for peace. From traditional ceremonies to modern classrooms in Chicago and St. Louis, this grassroots model of healing is transforming lives. It’s not just about forgiveness—it’s about rebuilding trust, honoring culture, and showing what’s possible when communities lead their own healing.

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Libby Hoffman

Libby Hoffman is the founder and president of Catalyst for Peace and author of the award-winning book, The Answers Are There: Building Peace from the Inside Out. She creates space for those most impacted by violence and war to lead in building the peace and restoring social wholeness. She co-founded the Fambul Tok (Family Talk) program in Sierra Leone and has accompanied its growth from post-war community reconciliation to national policy framework, as chronicled in her books and the award-winning documentary Fambul Tok, which she produced in 2011. A former political science professor at Principia College, Libby has degrees from Tufts’ Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy and Williams College.

Where to Find Libby Hoffman

Website: libbyhoffman.com

Book: The Answers Are There: Building Peace From The Inside Out

Documentary: Fambul Tok

Catalyst for Peace: catalystforpeace.org

About Eileen Borris

Dr. Eileen Borris is a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness on the individual, community and national level. She has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in areas of conflict around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East. Eileen is the author of Finding Forgiveness: A 7 Step Program for Letting Go of Anger and Bitterness and the creator of Healing the Divide, a program that trains leaders and other individuals interested in applying the principles of political forgiveness to transform their lives and create social change.

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00:00 Introduction to Political Forgiveness

00:41 Meet Libby Hoffman: Catalyst for Peace

02:24 The Origins of Fambul Tok

03:15 Challenges and Triumphs of Reconciliation

06:16 The Power of Community Healing

10:08 Bonfire and Cleansing Ceremonies

14:35 Stories of Forgiveness and Reconciliation

28:13 Applying Fambul Tok Principles Globally

33:43 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The Power of Acknowledgment and Community

The Fourth of July is a time when Americans come together, not only to celebrate the birth of our nation, but to reflect on the values it represents and the gratitude and appreciation for our freedom. It is a time to build a better community, even in the midst of conflict and brokenness, and to strive for a more inclusive society. Luckily for us, there are communities around the world that have been able to come together after being torn apart by conflict and war, which teach us how to do the same, and how the role of forgiveness has played a powerful part in the healing process.

Receiving the Truth With Mercy

In my most recent interview, I spoke with a wonderful woman, Libby Hoffman, whose work focuses on repairing “fireproof containers of community” to hold the work that people need in their communities, recognizing that “handling the heat” is a good thing. She was inspired by the words of Anglican Bishop MacLeod Baker Ochola who said:

“Once the truth is known, it is very bitter for you to swallow. Truth is very deadly; it can kill. But how can you handle it? It is only through mercy. Mercy can let you hold it. If you want to carry live fire in your hands, you will throw it away because it will burn. But if you hold it in something good, that does not conduct heat, you can take the fire. So, it is the same with this, truth revealed — you can receive it with mercy.”

Bishop Baker Ochola’s words helped guide Libby in her work in Sierra Leone and with the post-war reconciliation program, Fambul Tok (Family Talk). Libby is the founder and president of Catalyst for Peace, and facilitated the growth of Fambul Tok into a national policy framework.

Forgiveness is deeply ingrained in the fabric of Sierra Leonean culture and was a powerful force in helping Sierra Leoneans heal from their civil war. This was illustrated in the powerful story of Captain Savage. Mohammed Savage was one of the most notorious commanders in the civil war. Many people say if the special court had indicted 14 people instead of 13, he would have been the next one. Savage was from Kono, the diamond district in Sierra Leone, where a majority of his command had taken place. He was so notorious for his gruesome killings that a pond, which turned into a mass grave, was named the Savage Pit. This pit was the place where decapitated heads and bodies of people he had killed were buried. In that community was another notorious leader who had killed and beheaded 17 members of his own family, Tamba Joe.

The Search for Tamba Joe

When Fambul Tok visited that community, there was considerable discussion about whether even to have a bonfire, the heart of the ceremony rooted in local culture and tradition. However, it was ultimately decided that the community would never be able to move on unless they could discuss what had happened. So, people spent months searching for Tamba Joe, hoping to find him and bring him back so he could apologize. The community wanted to let Tamba Joe know that he would be welcomed back to testify at the ceremony. Yet no one could find him. Was he out of the country? Was he dead? No one knew. And when there finally was a Fambul Tok ceremony, his sisters, including one named Naomi Joe, were there to speak on his behalf. When the father of many of the victims stood up to talk about what happened to his children, the sisters came forward to apologize for Tamba Joe. The father, who was testifying, forgave the sisters, which initiated a healing process and led to an agreement to work together.

After the ceremony, Naomi Joe and her sisters desperately wanted Tamba Joe to come home. People searched all around the country, and eventually Naomi Joe strongly sensed that Tamba Joe was no longer alive. Then someone asked her if Tamba Joe were found, would she have a message she would like to give him? Yes, Naomi Joe replied. Here’s what she said:

“What I have to tell you — don’t be afraid. Anything can happen to us. And everything has an end. There is time for crying. There is time for death. There is time for happiness. I believe with our apology at the bonfire for the role that you played, we have been forgiven. So, wherever you are, you should not be afraid to come home. But if you are not ready to come, at least let there be some communication between us. Now I have taken the responsibility to work together as a family. We have lost enough of our relatives in the war. Our mother is now dead. Our father is now dead. Our cousins died. Even our children died in this war — a lot of them. Please come home so that we can do some cleansing and sacrifices to all who have died. That is all I have to say.”

Tamba Joe never appeared, but the message meant for him found its way to Mohammed Savage. It was the first time Savage had seen such a message from people who had suffered during the war, a message that conveyed the villagers’ willingness to accept him back into the community. And for whatever reason, Savage felt the message was speaking directly to him. Savage needed people to understand his plight, that he had a conscience which kept him in a dark place, and he, too, was suffering in very private ways. He wanted to be free, yet he knew fingers were pointing at him. He knew he had to come clean.

The Apology of Mohammed Savage

Savage realized that if he could admit what he had done, he could then help to heal the communities where he had caused so much harm. Due to issues concerning the special court, it took 18 months before Savage was able to attend a special bonfire just for him, where he came face to face with many of the people he had harmed, acknowledged what he had done, and, in an astonishing moment, apologized.

In her book, Fambul Tok, Libby Hoffman relates how the villagers of his community accepted Savage’s apology, including the Paramount Chief, who at one time never wanted to see Savage, then changed his mind, saying, “I’ve begun to see him as a human being.” With time, Savage returned to the community, engaging in constructive ways. He became a member of the Fambul Tok staff and began to work with ex-combatants using his story to help them come to terms with the harm they inflicted on others and ensure there would be no repeats. His story illustrates beautifully how individuals touched by the power of forgiveness can be transformed and become agents of societal change. This is how individuals, through their journey of forgiveness, create social change and become forces of political forgiveness.

The Importance of Acknowledgement

Acknowledgement plays a pivotal role in the Fambul Tok process, just as it does in the process of political forgiveness: There needs to be an acknowledgment of the crimes committed by the perpetrators of the harm caused. Survivors also need to acknowledge the pain and suffering shared by survivors and perpetrators — as individuals and in communities — and to understand that those who harm, in many cases, are themselves victims of significant harm. There is the trauma of oppression for both sides. This is very difficult to see, especially with groups who have a history of violence toward one another.

What becomes harder for people to acknowledge is that there is decency in the perpetrator’s community, and therefore, not every person is collectively responsible. More difficult is the acknowledgement of humanity in each other: understanding that anyone is just as capable of causing harm as the other, if they were living under the same circumstances. This becomes part of the healing work that needs to be done for forgiveness to be transformative. People will need to be held accountable for their actions and then come together to make decisions on how to repair the community. Only then can new relationships be formed and forgiveness offered.

The Fireproof Container of Community

What can we learn from the Fambul Tok process that can be applied to community healing in the United States? It’s the strength of the community and the power of forgiveness. It was the people who decided to work together, committed to having the hard conversations, acknowledging the truth of the atrocities together in front of the community, and recognizing that the healing community could be a strong enough container to hold even the heat of egregious actions, such as those of the civil war in Sierra Leone. Not dealing with the past was paralyzing those communities and holding them back. The power of community created the space that supports tough, hard conversations, such as Fambul Tok. It is a commitment to move forward together and act! It is this power of communities coming together with their energies and resources that is a lesson we can all learn from.

To learn more about Fambul Tok and Libby Hoffman’s work, enjoy the Political Forgiveness episode, “Forgiving a War Commander. Forging Community.” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts.